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Post by Doido Thu Feb 27, 2014 4:54 pm

Can someone show me how best Gold Cloth to Cygnus?

I'm in doubt between Pexies or Aquarius.

Classes influence the choice or there is no difference between them based on the class.


Thank you.
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Post by BadPicollo Thu Feb 27, 2014 6:13 pm

Gemini, scorpio or virgo.
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Post by vladko92 Thu Feb 27, 2014 8:00 pm

Aquarius is the best choice. Virgo and Gemini are specifically for Phoenix, where Virgo can be used by Andromeda as well, if your Andromeda is DPS. For Cygnus, to be honest, really depends, which part of the class you play, the controller one or the DPS one... because if you concentrate mostly over ice/water based attacks than thunder, which is the controller role you should get Aquarius, if you relay mostly on high DPS than it's Virgo :) Pisces is for Andromeda only... if your Andromeda is healer. That the way I see things. :)
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Post by xSeMix Fri Feb 28, 2014 10:57 am

BadPicollo wrote:Gemini, scorpio or virgo.


I agree, and Pisces also because their skills are of distance and with restore effect of hp and silencing the target.

Aquarium just freezes and let slow, are only 2 skills, does not seem a good armor while you're a Swan


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Post by Doido Fri Feb 28, 2014 5:58 pm

xSeMix wrote:
BadPicollo wrote:Gemini, scorpio or virgo.


I agree, and Pisces also because their skills are of distance and with restore effect of hp and silencing the target.

Aquarium just freezes and let slow, are only 2 skills, does not seem a good armor while you're a Swan


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You mean that because I already have these skills, armor of aquarium becomes redundant?

Is there any relationship between the armor and the knights who were confronted in the anime?

To Cygnus = Scorpio, Libra (by comparison with Camus in the Libra's House) and Aquarius?

To Andromeda = Gemini, Pisces and Virgo?

Etc.. etc...


Thks Vladko, your answer was very detailed, but you can say more options, like BadPicollo? If I understand what you said then would be Aquarius and Virgo for me?
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Post by xSeMix Sat Mar 01, 2014 2:24 am

Doido wrote:
xSeMix wrote:
BadPicollo wrote:Gemini, scorpio or virgo.


I agree, and Pisces also because their skills are of distance and with restore effect of hp and silencing the target.

Aquarium just freezes and let slow, are only 2 skills, does not seem a good armor while you're a Swan


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You mean that because I already have these skills, armor of aquarium becomes redundant?

Is there any relationship between the armor and the knights who were confronted in the anime?

To Cygnus = Scorpio, Libra (by comparison with Camus in the Libra's House) and Aquarius?

To Andromeda = Gemini, Pisces and Virgo?

Etc.. etc...


Thks Vladko, your answer was very detailed, but you can say more options, like BadPicollo? If I understand what you said then would be Aquarius and Virgo for me?


No, there is not relationship between the Golden Armor and your class, you can choose which you think is most useful for you...

for example, if you are a Swan, attack usually from distance, then you would be useful an armor that has skills to distance, unless you want to get close to use the skill...

Also you can choose depending on the effects of the skills, the best in my opinion are, Gemini, virgo, Scorpio and Pisces (all 3 skills)

Gemini: 1 skill, aoe galaxian explosion, only damage.

          2 skill, another dimension, push the enemy towards you as the claw of the dragon

          3 skill, genro maoken, like the phoenix illusion

Virgo have 3 skill aoe, 2 with effects, one with knock down, and the other with silence

Scorpio: slow, and bleed

Pisces: bleed (restore your hp) and bleed and silence


Thats my opinion... good luck!
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Post by SolemGolemZ Sat Mar 01, 2014 11:11 am

Can someone plsss tell me how to get the reputation points in order to buy the things for the black cloth i think it says u need 600 points??
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Post by vladko92 Sat Mar 01, 2014 12:01 pm

SolemGolemZ wrote:Can someone plsss tell me how to get the reputation points in order to buy the things for the black cloth i think it says u need 600 points??

Do 0/6 daily quests from the Black Saints :)
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Post by vladko92 Sat Mar 01, 2014 12:03 pm

Doido wrote:
xSeMix wrote:
BadPicollo wrote:Gemini, scorpio or virgo.


I agree, and Pisces also because their skills are of distance and with restore effect of hp and silencing the target.

Aquarium just freezes and let slow, are only 2 skills, does not seem a good armor while you're a Swan


(Google translation)   :P 

You mean that because I already have these skills, armor of aquarium becomes redundant?

Is there any relationship between the armor and the knights who were confronted in the anime?

To Cygnus = Scorpio, Libra (by comparison with Camus in the Libra's House) and Aquarius?

To Andromeda = Gemini, Pisces and Virgo?

Etc.. etc...


Thks Vladko, your answer was very detailed, but you can say more options, like BadPicollo? If I understand what you said then would be Aquarius and Virgo for me?

Not really... Gemini for Andromeda is no good... Gemini is good for Phoenix or Pegasus, but not for Andromeda...

The good cloths for Andromeda are Pisces (As number 1) and Virgo (As number 2) depends entirely on how you prefer to play your Andromeda.
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Post by BadPicollo Sat Mar 01, 2014 12:11 pm

I am dragon and i use gemini and i have no problems with it.
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Post by SolemGolemZ Sat Mar 01, 2014 1:48 pm

vladko92 wrote:
SolemGolemZ wrote:Can someone plsss tell me how to get the reputation points in order to buy the things for the black cloth i think it says u need 600 points??

Do 0/6 daily quests from the Black Saints :)

where do i find this quest?
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Post by vladko92 Sat Mar 01, 2014 3:44 pm

SolemGolemZ wrote:
vladko92 wrote:
SolemGolemZ wrote:Can someone plsss tell me how to get the reputation points in order to buy the things for the black cloth i think it says u need 600 points??

Do 0/6 daily quests from the Black Saints :)

where do i find this quest?

It's normal quest... it's next to the Star Cast Challenger...
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Post by SolemGolemZ Sat Mar 01, 2014 10:25 pm

vladko92 wrote:
SolemGolemZ wrote:
vladko92 wrote:
SolemGolemZ wrote:Can someone plsss tell me how to get the reputation points in order to buy the things for the black cloth i think it says u need 600 points??

Do 0/6 daily quests from the Black Saints :)

where do i find this quest?

It's normal quest... it's next to the Star Cast Challenger...

Im sorry Im still kinda new to the game which one is the star cast challenger lol u mean the one u trade orange orbs to for star souls??
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Post by vladko92 Sun Mar 02, 2014 11:26 am

SolemGolemZ wrote:
vladko92 wrote:
SolemGolemZ wrote:
vladko92 wrote:
SolemGolemZ wrote:Can someone plsss tell me how to get the reputation points in order to buy the things for the black cloth i think it says u need 600 points??

Do 0/6 daily quests from the Black Saints :)

where do i find this quest?

It's normal quest... it's next to the Star Cast Challenger...

Im sorry Im still kinda new to the game which one is the star cast challenger lol u mean the one u trade orange orbs to for star souls??

No I mean the one, where you enter in and you have to beat up layers, to get new cloths.
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Post by SolemGolemZ Sun Mar 02, 2014 5:32 pm

Oh u mean the quest that you can do once a day with 2 free rerolls?
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Post by vladko92 Sun Mar 02, 2014 7:50 pm

SolemGolemZ wrote:Oh u mean the quest that you can do once a day with 2 free rerolls?

Yep, this one.
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Post by susha Mon Mar 03, 2014 5:56 pm

vlad can u explain better why u think acquarius is best for control cygnus's?
i frankly dont understand why, as acquarius's main skill is the same as the cygnus cloth... it adds no further functionality to the control role.

on the other hand scorpio and virgo either block players on spot or silence them seems much more into the "control" concept
scorpio also has a wider range with his attack than the acquarius skill.

On the other had both virgo skills are aoe around the player, which is not particularly healthy for a ranged dps who has to get into the middle of a fight to use it. even more in pvp.

as for the dd role, wouldn't a cloth like Lio be best? with the option of doing aoe around yourselef or hitting in a straight line?

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Post by vladko92 Mon Mar 03, 2014 10:11 pm

susha wrote:vlad can u explain better why u think acquarius is best for control cygnus's?
i frankly dont understand why, as acquarius's main skill is the same as the cygnus cloth... it adds no further functionality to the control role.

on the other hand scorpio and virgo either block players on spot or silence them seems much more into the "control" concept
scorpio also has a wider range with his attack than the acquarius skill.

On the other had both virgo skills are aoe around the player, which is not particularly healthy for a ranged dps who has to get into the middle of a fight to use it. even more in pvp.

as for the dd role, wouldn't a cloth like Lio be best? with the option of doing aoe around yourselef or hitting in a straight line?


I am not sure what do you mean under DD Role...

But Aquarius Skills are a lot more Stronger than Cygnus Main Cloth... if you want, you can take Scorpio and then Aquarius, but Aquarius in my personal opinion is a must for Cygnus soon or later. As far for Virgo, I believe Virgo is for DPS's like Andromeda, which are mid-range DPS... or perhaps Pegasus... even thoughts most people pick Sagittarius for Pegasus classes.
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Post by susha Mon Mar 03, 2014 10:29 pm

vladko92 wrote:
susha wrote:vlad can u explain better why u think acquarius is best for control cygnus's?
i frankly dont understand why, as acquarius's main skill is the same as the cygnus cloth... it adds no further functionality to the control role.

on the other hand scorpio and virgo either block players on spot or silence them seems much more into the "control" concept
scorpio also has a wider range with his attack than the acquarius skill.

On the other had both virgo skills are aoe around the player, which is not particularly healthy for a ranged dps who has to get into the middle of a fight to use it. even more in pvp.

as for the dd role, wouldn't a cloth like Lio be best? with the option of doing aoe around yourselef or hitting in a straight line?


I am not sure what do you mean under DD Role...

But Aquarius Skills are a lot more Stronger than Cygnus Main Cloth... if you want, you can take Scorpio and then Aquarius, but Aquarius in my personal opinion is a must for Cygnus soon or later. As far for Virgo, I believe Virgo is for DPS's like Andromeda, which are mid-range DPS... or perhaps Pegasus... even thoughts most people pick Sagittarius for Pegasus classes.

mhh. ok im still not convinced as to why i should choose a spell/skill that slows down when all my other moves also do the same.
in my experience of cc (crowd control) you really don't want your final move to do cc, but rather finish off your enemy.
let me better explain. example, 1v1 scenario, I am lucky enuff to hit first with aurora execution, then I do an Ice coffin, then a hit or 2 and finally a kick back... and ofc one of my ground spells to slow him, down... basically if i have no "damage dealing" option with my final move i will just have lost time and not killed my enemy, who can now come back at me with all his cooldowns free...

as for DD and DPS
Damage Dealer
Damage Per Second

Damage Dealer is an effective "role" in rpgs
Damage per Second is definition used by SOME rpgs to define how much damage is dealt PER second. In WoW culture the term DPS has come to replace that of DD, which remains however the correct term, as a "Damage Per Second" class... means absolutely nothing.. in english at least.
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Post by vladko92 Mon Mar 03, 2014 11:11 pm

susha wrote:
vladko92 wrote:
susha wrote:vlad can u explain better why u think acquarius is best for control cygnus's?
i frankly dont understand why, as acquarius's main skill is the same as the cygnus cloth... it adds no further functionality to the control role.

on the other hand scorpio and virgo either block players on spot or silence them seems much more into the "control" concept
scorpio also has a wider range with his attack than the acquarius skill.

On the other had both virgo skills are aoe around the player, which is not particularly healthy for a ranged dps who has to get into the middle of a fight to use it. even more in pvp.

as for the dd role, wouldn't a cloth like Lio be best? with the option of doing aoe around yourselef or hitting in a straight line?


I am not sure what do you mean under DD Role...

But Aquarius Skills are a lot more Stronger than Cygnus Main Cloth... if you want, you can take Scorpio and then Aquarius, but Aquarius in my personal opinion is a must for Cygnus soon or later. As far for Virgo, I believe Virgo is for DPS's like Andromeda, which are mid-range DPS... or perhaps Pegasus... even thoughts most people pick Sagittarius for Pegasus classes.

mhh. ok im still not convinced as to why i should choose a spell/skill that slows down when all my other moves also do the same.
in my experience of cc (crowd control) you really don't want your final move to do cc, but rather finish off your enemy.
let me better explain. example, 1v1 scenario, I am lucky enuff to hit first with aurora execution, then I do an Ice coffin, then a hit or 2 and finally a kick back... and ofc one of my ground spells to slow him, down... basically if i have no "damage dealing" option with my final move i will just have lost time and not killed my enemy, who can now come back at me with all his cooldowns free...

as for DD and DPS
Damage Dealer
Damage Per Second

Damage Dealer is an effective "role" in rpgs
Damage per Second is definition used by SOME rpgs to define how much damage is dealt PER second. In WoW culture the term DPS has come to replace that of DD, which remains however the correct term, as a "Damage Per Second" class... means absolutely nothing.. in english at least.

Well think on it this way, what is the point to be crowd control class, when all you want to be is a damage dealer, who kills fast. You should have picked Phoenix Class or Pegasus class instead. Aquarius is better, because it gives huge advantage in CC, freezing and slowing your enemies faster and giving chance for your teammates to place the final blow for absolute annihilation, this is the way I see CC Class... I am Andromeda class, and even thought I prefer DPS Andromeda over Healer Andromeda, I have no big choice, but to pick Healer Andromeda, because otherwise my group dies. And when I am doing solo missions or 1 on 1, I use DPS Andromeda. That why my first Aim is Virgo Cloth, because its the cloth which I desire most, and as second cloth my aim is Pisces, because this is the cloth which I need for my Andromeda. You can do the same thing, you can pick up Scorpio Cloth first or whatever Cloth you desire mostly, so you can have more fun with it and later on, you can take Aquarius Cloth, but that my personal opinion, it's your decision. You wanted my thoughts on it, I told you about them, but this doesn't mean that you have to follow them. If you want you can take Aquarius Cloth and as a final cloth of your 12's collections. That's why I told you, it should be taken sooner or later, because you have to take it at certain point, at which point exactly is entirely up to you.

I've noticed that many players pick up Crowd Control Classes, because they like their skills more, without realizing what their true role in the group/raid is. Trying to outdo DPS of the real DPS classes. Yes Cygnus is Strong in DPS department, but if he faces well geared Phoenix or Pegasus, or if Phoenix/Pegasus have as good gear as Cygnus, Cygnus Damage will fall down drastically, because he is not a DD class, but a CC class. So don't make such mistake. Even thought Cygnus can be played both ways and as DD class and CC class, pretty much like Andromeda, but their main class is the second one, not the DD one. Think over that. And as far for Silence Skill, this is job for Phoenix or Pegasus, they are the DPS classes, your class should hold the enemy back, or keep it frozen until the rest of the mobs are killed.
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Post by p98s Wed Mar 05, 2014 2:00 am

Aquarius skills are too slow.
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Post by SolemGolemZ Thu Mar 06, 2014 4:52 am

vladko92 wrote:
SolemGolemZ wrote:Oh u mean the quest that you can do once a day with 2 free rerolls?

Yep, this one.

do i have to unlock all 5 black saints or can i just do the same one over and over (black dragon)
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Post by vladko92 Thu Mar 06, 2014 11:49 am

SolemGolemZ wrote:
vladko92 wrote:
SolemGolemZ wrote:Oh u mean the quest that you can do once a day with 2 free rerolls?

Yep, this one.

do i have to unlock all 5 black saints or can i just do the same one over and over (black dragon)

Depends, but I think it's working if you do the same one. :)
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Post by SolemGolemZ Fri Mar 07, 2014 9:11 am

vladko92 wrote:
SolemGolemZ wrote:
vladko92 wrote:
SolemGolemZ wrote:Oh u mean the quest that you can do once a day with 2 free rerolls?

Yep, this one.

do i have to unlock all 5 black saints or can i just do the same one over and over (black dragon)

Depends, but I think it's working if you do the same one. :)

How do you get a gold cloth book?? cause it says u need 100 coins and then a gold cloth book to redeem a gold cloth?
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Post by vladko92 Fri Mar 07, 2014 11:35 am

SolemGolemZ wrote:
vladko92 wrote:
SolemGolemZ wrote:
vladko92 wrote:
SolemGolemZ wrote:Oh u mean the quest that you can do once a day with 2 free rerolls?

Yep, this one.

do i have to unlock all 5 black saints or can i just do the same one over and over (black dragon)

Depends, but I think it's working if you do the same one. :)

How do you get a gold cloth book?? cause it says u need 100 coins and then a gold cloth book to redeem a gold cloth?

You can get it two ways, with Athena Tears which you get only from Galaxy Arena and Silver/Bronze Fragments

or

You can get it with 100 Gold/Silver/Bronze Frags... both ways are hard to obtain.
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